Funny. Jesse, though he does not like Christianity much, has a more traditional Christian perspective than Hasselbeck. Hasselbeck is not deterred by Jesse's experience and logical arguments against waterboarding and torture, and tries to persuade him with her idiotic and long-ago-discredited neo-con talking points. She presents a perfect example of why smart people are leaving the RedTeam in droves.
Speaking of neo-con useful idiots, here is Lindsey Graham driving away more traditional Americans.